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IlBeBauck@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:28 am    Post subject: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

This is the first of a series of Psychology behind the Atheist
Faith. I mean no offense to those who read these posts who have the
desire to be an atheist ; that is your perogative based on whatever
reason(s) you may have. I only wish to examine the psychology behind
it. The word 'Psychology' refers to Human Behaviour including
motives, reasons, excuses, ideals, actions, lifestyle, desires,
willfulness , and unwillingness . In the weeks to come, Ill hit on
all of these.

Id like to start by saying that I labeled myself 'an Atheist' from
the approx age of 17 to 29 and ran with a fairly large crowd of folks
who considered themselves the same. If i were asked if i believed in
God , I would have answered : &*$%#@ NO !! I had my mind made up
for a variety of what i thought were good reasons including : The
world is in too bad of state, it appears that bad things happen to
rather good people, there was no convincing evidence of a God-Person
nor did he want to show himself, hes never done anything for me,
and Church Goers were all just a bunch of hypocrites to varying
degrees. My chosen lifestyle was one of 'personal discovery and
quests' , namely, whatever I felt like doing for maximized pleasure
with emphasis in the sexual area . Some call it 'sowing your wild
oats' while others might call it ' Boys will be boys' . For many
years, this was my MO since there was no other definitive purpose or
meaning to life , including my own , outside of hedonism and
narcissism.

There is a popular saying that is often posted on a churches outdoor
sign ; it says : No Peace, no God ; Know Peace , Know God.
Now that I am on the other side of the fence of life, I see the
accuracy and truth
of this saying. What little peace i did have as an active Atheist, it
was very shortlived because nothing or no one was truly/long lasting
Peace-filling. Ive mixed with many atheists when i was one and now
that im not one...and they confess this to me sometimes verbally,
sometimes in email, and always by actions and lifestyle. Is it the
same with you as one who desires to follow atheism ?

I shall stop here for the first post in this series and invite
discussion.

Dave
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: SPAMMING DILV BULLSHIT Reply with quote

Why RU avoiding questions already posed to you, U ASSHOLE?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
This is the first of a series of Psychology behind the Atheist
Faith.

There's no point in reading any further, as you've already blown it.

A-theist = without a belief in a deity. Nothing more, nothing less.

i.e. the very point is that atheists don't have a religion or
religious faith, so your whole series commences with a fallacy.

Quote:

There is a popular saying that is often posted on a churches outdoor
sign ; it says : No Peace, no God

Well, 50% right is not bad, is it? The world has neither. The former
is absent mainly because of believers in the latter.

I don't think that you posted anything else worth commenting on. Sad
really.

regards, Ian
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David Wynne-Griffiths
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

You clearly have a big hang up about sex. You tell us about your 12
years of sexual experimentation and perversion which eventually so
disgusted you that you turned to religion as a means of controlling your
sexual appetite and behaviour. That may be your personal psychology
but a desire for sexual experimentation and perversion was not our
motivation in becoming atheists.

The reason we are atheists has nothing whatsoever to do with sex but is
simply because we do not believe in gods.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 3:28:03 +0100, IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote
(in message
<aed28be6-f70c-4b26-beb9-b9e56827af08@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>):

Quote:
I mean no offense to those who read these posts who have the
desire to be an atheist ; that is your perogative based on whatever
reason(s) you may have.

Fuck off then.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: SPAMMING DILV BULLSHIT Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 9:34 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Why RU avoiding questions already posed to you, U ASSHOLE?

REPLY: You can try to interrupt this Series if you like th
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: SPAMMING DILV BULLSHIT Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 9:34 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Why RU avoiding questions already posed to you, U ASSHOLE?

REPLY: You can try to interrupt this Series if you like thru regular
foul and vile personal attack verbage, but it wont work.
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IlBeBauck@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

On Jul 1, 3:22 am, David Wynne-Griffiths <davi...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
You clearly have a big hang up about sex.  You tell us about your 12
years of sexual experimentation and perversion which eventually so
disgusted you that you turned to religion as a means of controlling your
sexual appetite and behaviour.   That may be your personal psychology
but a desire for sexual experimentation and perversion was not our
motivation in becoming atheists.

REPLY: Even popular evolutionist Huxley on the Merv Griffith TV Show

in 1969 told millions of Americans that the reason the book Origins of
Species gained such popularity was because it eliminated God
interferring with his and others Sexual Mores. Without God, Man
will gravitate toward the sensual .... sexual immorality and often
perversion , because it is the highest pleasurable experience and for
the worldly man who operates on moral relativism , it is a vital
permissable entitlement . To not act on this 'entitlement' , is akin
to giving a child his favorite ice cream and telling him not to
indulge in it.
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IlBeBauck@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

On Jul 1, 4:09 am, Tim <spambegonewith...@trash.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 3:28:03 +0100, IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote
(in message
aed28be6-f70c-4b26-beb9-b9e56827a...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>):

 I mean no offense to those who read these posts who have the
desire to be an atheist ; that is your perogative based on whatever
reason(s) you may have.  to

Fuck off then.

REPLY: No Tim ; whenever I do that I get blamed for running off !
Stick around...this Series will be enlightening to you as we discuss
the benefits of wanting to be an atheist despite evidence...because
its not really about the evidence required. Rather, maximum personal
freedom. We will get into this a bit deeper as time goes on. Glad
you are joining in the discussion Tim.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: SPAMMING DILV BULLSHIT (notes on his sex hangups) Reply with quote

On Jul 1, 5:45 am, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <IlBeBa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 30, 9:34 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:

Why RU avoiding questions already posed to you, U ASSHOLE?

REPLY: You can try to interrupt this Series if you like thru regular
foul and vile personal attack verbage, but it wont work.

Dimwit Dave.......fat faggot fundy fuckhead

Want proof?
Here he openly admits to doing "it"

Newsgroups: alt.guns
From: DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:26:17 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 14 2006 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Shop Wal*Mart for a Gay America!
And not JUST a regular run-of-the-mill bigot but a hypocrite bigot!
From: DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.hyundai
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 22:39:13 -0500
Organization: WebTV Subscriber

Matt: Do you have first-hand experience with alcohol? illegal drugs?
prostitutes? homosexuality? or any other things that you consider to
be
sinful?'
REPLY: And what if it once did involve homosexuality many years ago
when i was a godless heathen Randy ?
Then what ?
It wouldnt make me a 'hypocritical Bigot' now since i dont do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of ....Why can't you answer these questio Reply with quote

What is the highest level of education you reached?
Do you have a professional qualification and if so what?
To what level did you study physics and biology?
What qualifies you to lecture us on your religion?
Why is the account of the creation in Genesis so confused and
scientifically illiterate?
What evidence do you have for your alleged theistic creator other
than
your customary arguments from ignorance and incredulity?
Why was your alleged intelligent designer so bad at designing?

CCPed from DavidWG's post
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

On 2008-07-01, David Wynne-Griffiths <davidwg@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
The message
59f2e398-c5f7-4ab3-9363-06f60b077800@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
from "IlBeBauck@gmail.com" <IlBeBauck@gmail.com> contains these words:

REPLY: Even popular evolutionist Huxley on the Merv Griffith TV Show
in 1969 told millions of Americans that the reason the book Origins of
Species gained such popularity was because it eliminated God
interferring with his and others Sexual Mores. Without God, Man
will gravitate toward the sensual .... sexual immorality and often
perversion , because it is the highest pleasurable experience and for
the worldly man who operates on moral relativism , it is a vital
permissable entitlement . To not act on this 'entitlement' , is akin
to giving a child his favorite ice cream and telling him not to
indulge in it.

Which Huxley? Thomas Henry Huxley FRS, (1825-1895) was certainly a
supporter of Darwin and coined the term 'agnostic' to describe his views
on religion. Aldous Leonard Huxley (1894-1963) was the well known
author of the Brave New World. Matthew Huxley his much less well known
only son who died in 2005 was an anthropologist and prominent
epidemiologist.

Or Julian Huxley or Andrew Huxley (of neuron fame) or Virginia Huxley
(U. of Missouri, school of medicine)

However Julian is the one usually named.

Quote:
I recall we have seen this quotation before and it turned out to be false.

Yup. Or to be exact unsupported by any good evidence.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.philosophy.atheism/2006-08/msg00080.html


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
<IlBeBauck@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
This is the first of a series of Psychology behind the Atheist
Faith.

What "Atheist faith", deliberately nasty liar?

Quote:
I mean no offense to those who read these posts

Lying psychopath. That's exactly why you do it.

Did you also mean no offence to Jews when you painted swastikas on the
walls of their homes, serial liar?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Intro. Reply with quote

The message
<59f2e398-c5f7-4ab3-9363-06f60b077800@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
from "IlBeBauck@gmail.com" <IlBeBauck@gmail.com> contains these words:

Quote:
REPLY: Even popular evolutionist Huxley on the Merv Griffith TV Show
in 1969 told millions of Americans that the reason the book Origins of
Species gained such popularity was because it eliminated God
interferring with his and others Sexual Mores. Without God, Man
will gravitate toward the sensual .... sexual immorality and often
perversion , because it is the highest pleasurable experience and for
the worldly man who operates on moral relativism , it is a vital
permissable entitlement . To not act on this 'entitlement' , is akin
to giving a child his favorite ice cream and telling him not to
indulge in it.

Which Huxley? Thomas Henry Huxley FRS, (1825–1895) was certainly a
supporter of Darwin and coined the term 'agnostic' to describe his views
on religion. Aldous Leonard Huxley (1894–1963) was the well known
author of the Brave New World. Matthew Huxley his much less well known
only son who died in 2005 was an anthropologist and prominent
epidemiologist.

I recall we have seen this quotation before and it turned out to be false.

While some persons may abandon a religion to avoid its strictures such
as the condemnation of homosexual activity, it very certainly was not
the motivation for the vast majority of atheists. We do not believe in
gods because there is no evidence that any such creatures exist. Being
an atheist involves nothing more or less than the fact of not believing
in any gods. There is no particular psychology involved and atheists are
by definition less gullible and in general more intelligent and better
educated than religionists.

You have repeatedly shown us that you have not the first idea about what
makes people become atheists despite claiming to have been one yourself.
Your attempts to lecture us only expose you to ridicule but perhaps
that is what you seek!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: The Psychology of Atheism Series : Chapter One Reply with quote

In the beginning, fear drove cavemen and women to observe completely
natural events and create supernatural forces to explain what they were
too ignorant to understand.
Today, that ignorance continues in the lie of christianity and all
other religions and those who follow their fable of choice live in
abject jealousy of atheism. Being the choice of intelligentsia for
milennia, atheism is the only choice for those that wish to live, not
just survive long enough to die pathetically in the broken pieces of
their wasted existences.
Tune in for more of this...all in these groups are invited to write
or rewrite any of these chapters at any time...
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